Some Congolese people use the word "mundele" to describe someone of European descent...mundele means "no colour", "white man" and mpembe (someone who is white and pale) The origin of the word mundele comes from the Bobangi langauge (a relative and main lexical source of the Lingala language) and from the word "ndele" or "ndelengene" which describes an insincere person. So the word "mundele" means INSINCERE COLOURLESS PERSON
“I know I don’t speak for all Black people, but I want to say for most POC here, we’re really tired of hearing of MLK quotes. I know you think you’re being really profound with this kumbuyah and everyone should love each other, and hate shouldn’t make more hate.. But we’ve heard it all before. We all went to elementary school. History has shown us, that black people can be nice to white people, and they’re still gonna be racist. History has shown us that gay people can be nice to straight people, and guess what, they’re still gonna be homophobic. I know you addressed your privilege, and that’s really cool. I’m glad you did that. But now I suggest you actually read about that, and figure out why those statements were really problematic.”—Me (via theafroina)
Do you think African people have the right to say the n-word. In Europe they say 'neger' as derogatory word and use it against black people as in (dirty n-word), (I know a joke, a n-word who got a job) I def won't use the n-word if it's not appropriate for me to use it. And I also find it weird, that 'neger' isn't considered as a slur in Europe either, they say it on tv, white people say it hear and still considered it a way to describe black people Well, here we don't talk about it..
Personally, I don’t use the n-word. It’s not in my vernacular. I can’t speak for Africans who live in America because I don’t have that experience. I live in England. from my experience Africans here rarely use the n-word when talking to or about another person. They usually use that term when singing a long to American music. Do they have the right to use it? I don’t know
I’ve never heard of the term ‘neger’ in my life. But I looked it up and in dutch that word just means black person. It could be used as a derogatory term in other European countries but I don’t know.
It feels good to be taken seriously as half-Amazigh I've told people that I'm half-North African and they don't believe me because I'm white or they say something racist-this isn't the worst thing ever since there are African Girls who need equality
My advice is telling them that light skin does not equal whiteness, there are Africans who have light skin. Perpetuating the belief that light skin = whiteness is immensely detrimental, it contributes to the erasure of light skinned and white passing Africans. Also, tell them that not every African woman is dark skinned. (Exclude white people from this, they’re not Africans) xx -C
I'd like to know when being East African became synonymous with Ethiopian, Somali, and Eritrean. When people describe East African girls, I feel that they tend to forget that Kenya, Uganda, Tanzania, Sudan, Rwanda, Burundi, and Madagascar are also part of east Africa and we are not all light skinned with soft curls. Do you feel like that is something that we should have a conversation about?
Yes!!!! This is something that we should discuss, I’ve noticed that people, especially those who fetishize East African women believe East African women are light skinned with soft curls and “white” features. This mentality erases women in Kenya, Uganda, Tanzania, Sudan, Rwanda, Burundi, and Madagascar. It sets a ridiculous standard, that in order to be East African you must be Ethiopian, Somali, and Eritrean with light skinned, soft curls and “white” features. These beliefs are absolutely wrong and detrimental. xx -C
Safari ni nzuri kabisa, asante. Unajua kitbau cha 'Congo: An Epic History of a People'? Kuna kitabu kizuri kwa sababu kinasema kuhusu historia kabisa na Kongo. Kinasema kuhusu historia ya Kongo kabla ya Ukoloni hadii nafikiri 2010. Kwa watu wengi (wa Marekani na Ulaya na nchi tofauti katika Afrika pia) hawajui kuhusu hali ya saisa leo katika Kongo wanahitaji kusoma kitabu hiki.
i agree w/ you on your henna post! its great seeing black americans wanting to know more about their roots but i don't think they realize that africa is a contient not a country. its SOOOOOOOO diverse like you'll probably spend your whole life trying to look at EVERY ethnic group picking what you like then calling it afrocentric. my maternal grandparents actual nubians who live cairo so when i hear blacks in america call themselves nubians im like ??????? why ?????? a lil research wont hurt:/
I don’t think Black-Americans purposely try to generalise Africa and it’s cultures. The American education system/much of Western Education does that already and some people may generalise African cultures without realising it.
I don’t like afrocentrcism…I don’t like the who concept. Why do you have be labelled as afrocentric if you want to connect to your own culture and learn about your own history? I think a lot of aforcentric work is pseudo-history
would you know about which african countries the slaves brought to each colonized country came from? is that i'm brazilian, because of the mixing, i have doubt to recognize when people look mostly mixed and when they look mostly pure african. i tend to only consider someone black when they are VERY black, do you know? but then analyzing some pure afro-americans from usa they seem mixed to me but they aren't.
1. It’s hard to determine which country someone from the diaspora came from without taking a ancestral DNA test and also you’ve got to keep in mind that before slavery Africa wasn’t divided into countries but kingdoms and empires and those kingdoms and empires forcibly or un-forcibly merged to form the countries we have today.
These are various maps of Africa pre-modern time (you can see how much things have changed if you compare it to modern maps)
2. this map may help to see which region of Africa your ancestors came from. As you can see, the majority of the enslaved Africans that were sent to South America/Latin America were from the Central Africa region and of course some enslaved Africans from West Africa were sent to Latin America but the majority of them were from Central Africa.
3. What makes a person black or African isn’t how dark their skin tone is? Africans and people of the diaspora come in many different shades and just because they’re light skinned it doesn’t mean they’re mixed race. There were light skinned Africans pre-slavery and pre-colonialism and there are still light skinned Africans today. Being darker skinned doesn’t make someone more African than someone who has a lighter skin tone. For example people of the Khoisan ethnic group tend to be light skinned.
There are also other Africans who are light-skinned.
Cape Verdean people
Being light skinned doesn’t make these people less black or African.
4. I don’t know what you’re definition of a “pure African-American” and I can’t comment on that because I’m not African-America nor am I American so I don’t fully know how race and ethnicity is portrayed/viewed there
Lmao how can you say Congolese women are fine? Most of them are always mixtures of belgiums and some Portuguese. Walk in belgium or in Congo self and show me a beautiful Congolese women with no mixture? Which is hardly to find. Look at Ethiopians or Nigerians or kenyan(kikuyu, meru etc) people aren't mix. They stil fine as hell with no need of being mixed with whites in them..
wtf is wrong with you? Are you forgetting that I’m Congolese? Congolese women are fine. Congolese women are beautiful. You obviously don’t understand what it means to be Congolese so I suggest that you shut that mouth of yours…Why did you think that you’re opinion would be important. Who the fuck are you mate?
Yall are mad about some North Africans IDing as Arab but one of your NA mods ID's as white?? I'm amazigh and I'm damn sure not Arab or white. realize that self hate plays a big part of identifying a certain way. It took me a while to admit my ass isn't Arab nor Euro because my parents who have no Arab/euro ancestry told me my entire life we were Arab/euro. To me non white NA's identifying as white is just as bad as identifying as arab because Europe colonized us too.
I think someone here doesn’t understand the difference between race and ethnicity.
I can be amazigh and look white as a goddamn Irish citizen(my brother for example).
I can be amazigh and look brown(my parents).
I can be amazigh and look black(my cousin).
Amazigh is my ethnic group, my ethnicity and there is no one single shade of skin color that fits it. There are blonde, blue eyed Imazighen, who, if living in the US have to check in the “white category” in race. In fact, even my brown parents have to check in white for the race because here in the US, we are grouped in with the middle east and considered white so that’s the box we get to check off regardless of how “white” or “not white” we look.
So yes, I get to racially identify as white because I am not brown, and I am not fucking black, so why the hell would I ever describe myself as such? That doesn’t change my ethnicity. Doesn’t make me less of an amazigh. God, I am growing more and more disgusted with my fellow North Africans, widespread ignorance seems to be common. It’s ridiculous how I have felt more comfortable and more at home with Africans that don’t come from the northern region of the continent. They have a unity we clearly lack. What a pity.
Tbh I really like the name change. It changes the focus from white people to us POC. Instead of 'WHITE PEOPLE you're stealing our culture' it's 'WE POC are taking back what you're stealing from us'. Like it makes us the focus more than them.